> On 29-May-2014, at 10:08 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Men rarely, if ever, manage to dream up a god superior to
> themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled
> child.
>       --- Robert A. Heinlein 

That is why I ask that you measure it for factual accuracy. If it's consistent 
with known scientific knowledge, then it's probably from a higher intelligence. 
 

Samiya 
> 
>> On 5/28/2014 9:59 PM, LizR wrote:
>> I hate to use the argument from incredulity, but it really IS hard to 
>> imagine that someone who's so petty they don't like gays could have made 
>> this...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 May 2014 16:54, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On 5/28/2014 9:31 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
>>>> Quran (33:35) clearly states that there is forgiveness and vast reward for 
>>>> all men and women who submit, believe, obey, speak the truth, persevere, 
>>>> who are humble, who give alms, who fast, who guard their modesty and who 
>>>> remember Allah much.
>>> 
>>> Clearly stating something has no bearing on its truth.  The above is 
>>> nonsense.  Why should forgiveness be needed? - and if it were it would have 
>>> to come from someone who was harmed; not from an imaginary superbeing who 
>>> can't possibly be harmed.  And why should anyone submit...to whom?  Where 
>>> is the virtue in giving up your own moral judgement and living by someone 
>>> else's.  Of course when you take these questions seriously the answer is 
>>> obvious: "Allah" is just extrapolation of every despotic Mesopotamian king. 
>>>  He's vain, jealous, cruel, ruthless, demanding and ignorant.
>>> 
>>> Brent
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