On 12 June 2014 12:42, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 6/11/2014 5:31 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
>
>  On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:27 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  On 6/11/2014 2:48 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
>>
>>  It's just a modal function.  I don't see that it "knows" anything.
>>> ISTM you are leaping the 3p/1p gap here in a way you consider illegitimate
>>> for physical theories.
>>>
>>
>>  If beings for argument's sake made of some matter in physical theories
>> can know via exploring relations and patterns scientifically in 3p: why
>> would the appropriate universal machines/numbers in comp ontology not be
>> able to do the same?
>>
>>
>>  No reason.  But the same question goes both ways.
>>
>>
>  Indeed, but there might be a slight advantage for "just a function" to
> relate, because that's what it does via agreed upon terms. Whereas with an
> entity arising out of matter subject to quantum logic, it's weird that it
> would relate at all. Even weirder still that such entity will intuitively
> tend to reason classically. PGC
>
>
> If the quantum system can emulate a Turing machine, then it's no weirder
> for it to be conscious than an UD.
>

Which is comp, isn't it? So what's wrong with Bruno's argument?

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