On 10 June 2014 16:52, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah that's pretty close, although I'd say consciousness just occurs at a > different level of description and is equally "real" at that level. The > second law of thermodynamics is "real" at the level of thermodynamics, even > though it can be seen as implied by statistical mechanics. It is more > general than any specific statistical mechanics. I don't think p-zombies > are possible, so consciousness is a necessary aspect of some kinds of > physical processes. >
So I guess that you think that consciousness is as real as the second law, which is (as far as I know) an emergent property of the universe having been arranged in a special way in the past (plus the laws of physics, although I imagine most varieties of physics would give a version of the 2nd law, given a special arrangement of the constituents of a universe). So it isn't really, really, really real [?] .... but it *is* a good high level approximation for -- er -- something. [?] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
