Didn't the thugs call themselves Jesus' people who killed the abortion
doctor? was he not a martyr?
JM


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 7:34 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> Brent, Jesus people don't become murdering martyr's anymore, so let's
> focus where the problem is. Look at Nigeria, Sudan, Syria,a and Iraq, and
> draw together the facts. If it was Buddhists setting off bombs in subways'
> one could concede your point. Also, I am not a Jesus person, and don't hate
> em. If ya want to beat up JC why not this quote, "I come not to bring peace
> but with a sword." And the Christians surely did, right into the 20th
> century, but no longer.
>
> This is naive.  Bandits do lucrative criminal acts to get money which can
> purchase goods, luxury, women, power.  So why do suppose that no one uses
> religion to get goods, luxury, women, power,..?  You just want to excuse
> religion and blame it all on some "criminal acts".  What is a crime is
> often defined by religion and it often includes questioning the priesthood
> and the official dogma.  So the problem is not just "radical Islam"; it
> is any Islam, and any religion, which has a dogma and requires belief in
> that dogma to avoid sanctions and punishment in this life or a putative
> afterlife...that is to say 90% of all religions.
>
> Brent
> "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
> bring hither, and slay them before me."
>    --- Jesus, Luke 19:27
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meekerdb <[email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 9:57 pm
> Subject: Re: Pluto bounces back!
>
>  On 6/23/2014 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> There is a problem with radical islamism, but the real problem is in the
> exploitation of that problem by bandits to hide their lucrative criminal
> activities.
>
>
> This is naive.  Bandits do lucrative criminal acts to get money which can
> purchase goods, luxury, women, power.  So why do suppose that no one uses
> religion to get goods, luxury, women, power,..?  You just want to excuse
> religion and blame it all on some "criminal acts".  What is a crime is
> often defined by religion and it often includes questioning the priesthood
> and the official dogma.  So the problem is not just "radical Islam"; it
> is any Islam, and any religion, which has a dogma and requires belief in
> that dogma to avoid sanctions and punishment in this life or a putative
> afterlife...that is to say 90% of all religions.
>
> Brent
> "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
> bring hither, and slay them before me."
>    --- Jesus, Luke 19:27
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