On 25 Jun 2014, at 03:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/23/2014 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is a problem with radical islamism, but the real problem is
in the exploitation of that problem by bandits to hide their
lucrative criminal activities.
This is naive. Bandits do lucrative criminal acts to get money
which can purchase goods, luxury, women, power.
I agree.
So why do suppose that no one uses religion to get goods, luxury,
women, power,..?
I did not suppose that. Exactly the contrary. I insist that this is
the weakness of religion and the theological, but also the health,
fields. They are used by bandits who exploits them; But the religion
is not the problem, it is the bandits who exploit them, and we should
not confuse them.
You just want to excuse religion and blame it all on some "criminal
acts".
Yes. To criticize religion for that would be like criticizing money
for the stealing of money, or criticizing blood for the feeding of
cancer.
What is a crime is often defined by religion
That makes sense in "primitive society", but religion might have
nothing to say on the terrestrial plane. You confuse religion, and the
institutionalization of religion.
and it often includes questioning the priesthood and the official
dogma.
That is the way of bandits. If theology would have remained a science,
we might have just forbid the institutionalization of any religion.
Don't confuse religion and what the human do with them.
So the problem is not just "radical Islam"; it is any Islam, and any
religion, which has a dogma and requires belief in that dogma to
avoid sanctions and punishment in this life or a putative
afterlife...that is to say 90% of all religions.
In occident. After theology has been abandoned to politics and
bandits. I use religion in the original sense. For me there is just no
relation between, even just christianity, and what followed its roman
institutionalization.
Only by coming back to seriousness in theology, we will be able to
fight against the religious institutions. Mocking religion and
theology only profits to the (fake) religions and to its
authoritarianism.
Bruno
Brent
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over
them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
--- Jesus, Luke 19:27
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