On 6/25/2014 4:34 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Brent, Jesus people don't become murdering martyr's anymore,

Well there are those who murder abortion doctors. But "lucrative criminal acts" includes a lot more than murderous martydom. The Catholic Church has probably condemned more children to starvation by outlawing contraception than the Islamist ever will.

Brent

so let's focus where the problem is. Look at Nigeria, Sudan, Syria,a and Iraq, and draw together the facts. If it was Buddhists setting off bombs in subways' one could concede your point. Also, I am not a Jesus person, and don't hate em. If ya want to beat up JC why not this quote, "I come not to bring peace but with a sword." And the Christians surely did, right into the 20th century, but no longer.

    This is naive.  Bandits do lucrative criminal acts to get money which can 
purchase
    goods, luxury, women, power.  So why do suppose that no one uses religion 
to get
    goods, luxury, women, power,..?  You just want to excuse religion and blame 
it all
    on some "criminal acts".  What is a crime is often defined by religion and 
it often
    includes questioning the priesthood and the official dogma. So the problem 
is not
    just "radical Islam"; it is any Islam, and any religion, which has a dogma 
and
    requires belief in that dogma to avoid sanctions and punishment in this 
life or a
    putative afterlife...that is to say 90% of all religions.

    Brent
    "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, 
bring
    hither, and slay them before me."
--- Jesus, Luke 19:27



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On 6/23/2014 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is a problem with radical islamism, but the real problem is in the exploitation of that problem by bandits to hide their lucrative criminal activities.

This is naive. Bandits do lucrative criminal acts to get money which can purchase goods, luxury, women, power. So why do suppose that no one uses religion to get goods, luxury, women, power,..? You just want to excuse religion and blame it all on some "criminal acts". What is a crime is often defined by religion and it often includes questioning the priesthood and the official dogma. So the problem is not just "radical Islam"; it is any Islam, and any religion, which has a dogma and requires belief in that dogma to avoid sanctions and punishment in this life or a putative afterlife...that is to say 90% of all religions.

Brent
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
   --- Jesus, Luke 19:27
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