On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:16:07 AM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote:
>
>
> > On 23 Jul 2014, at 4:33 am, Craig Weinberg <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > 
> > To be unconscious is not merely to lose the faculties which make our 
> quality of life human, but to lose all faculties. 
>
> Perhaps, but I doubt that you lose your 'self'. A self is immortal. Just 
> like you wake up from the anaesthetic after the surgery. Where your 'self' 
> was during, is an open question (downing tequila sunrises in the bar at 
> Platonia Central???) 
>

I agree, but I think that just means that the self is a deeper, 
transpersonal level of consciousness.
 

>
> Similarly, is the person who is undergoing transportation-with-delay 
> unconscious? 


I don't think that there will be teleportation with delay. Reconstructing a 
body won't even survive as an organism much less a person.


Craig
 

> It is merely said that 'they' (presumably this means their 'self' - 
> whatever that is, which is what I am asking) is 'stored'. While their self 
> is being stored somewhere it doesn't matter if we think of 'them' as 
> unconscious because they will disagree with you from their 1p report on 
> their experience where they will experience no discontinuity of self 
> whatsoever. So the self cannot be a secretion of the mind. You can knock a 
> mind right out and still get a self back when you take all the tubes out 
> after an extraordinary amount of time. 
>
> Schumacher is still Schumacher. Alive and well, in a coma, as a vegetable 
> or dead. A person. 
>
> Kim

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