On Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:26:13 PM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote: > > A good thinking habit to cultivate is simplicity. Try and make it as > simple as you can. > > Consciousness comes in two flavours (that I know of): > > 1. I know > > 2. I know that I know. (Presumably something to do with remembering that > you knew.) > > Are there any others? >
I don't think that consciousness has anything to do with knowing, or nested knowing, or self awareness. Consciousness is about one thing: Direct perceptual participation. If there is a feeling of warmth or pain - there is no knowledge that is required, no self-modeling...only the raw appreciation of an aesthetic quality. Most of us are conflate the particulars of human consciousness, which is an almost perversely elaborate evolution of consciousness, and the fundamental nature of awareness itself. In human consciousness, we have layers upon layers of sensation, feeling, thought, and intuition which refer to each other coextensively and dynamically. *We* have an intellectual scope of sensitivity within our consciousness which can analyze and propose concepts and distinctions. That is the level of symbolic manipulation, language, mathematics, etc, but that is not the level which allows us to see the sun or pick up a stone. To be unconscious is not merely to lose the faculties which make our quality of life human, but to lose all faculties. It is only the the human intellect which imagines that its native level of mechanical equivalences are synonymous with awareness itself. Craig > > Am I correct in assuming the comp substitution level is where > consciousness reaches 2? In fact you have to be at 2 to even be able to say > you are at 1. > > This second level of experience appears to be what defines self-aware > consciousness. It is the 'I' who knows, (supposedly) consistently the same > as the 'I' that "I" know and vice versa. > > Consciousness is therefore more than the contents of consciousness. Where > does this magical ability of matter to organise its own self-organising > information system come from? How does the machine construct its own > operating system? > > > > Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL > > Email: kimj...@ozemail.com.au <javascript:> > kmjc...@icloud.com <javascript:> > Mobile: 0450 963 719 > Phone: 02 93894239 > Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com > > > *"Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain* > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
