2014-07-29 16:30 GMT+02:00 John Clark <[email protected]>:

> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:22 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  >>> whatever a computer does is "just" the movement of electrons around
>>>> circuits
>>>>
>>>
>>> >> And whatever a human brain does is "just" the movement of molecules
>>> and ions around neurons. That word  "just"  sure covers a lot!
>>>
>>
>> > Hence the quote marks. Don't worry I "just" love being quoted out of
>> context.
>>
>
> I wasn't trying to criticize you, I understand that you were using the
> word "just" in the same way I was.
>
> > If that proves a computer can't be conscious then it also proves that
>>> humans aren't conscious; and except for me maybe that's the case.
>>>
>>
>> > It supposedly proves that the materialist paradigm doesn't explain
>> consciousness
>>
>
> Then it also explains why a human being can never be conscious, but I know
> for a fact that at least one human being is. And if changing the material
> in my brain changes my consciousness (and it most certainly does) and
> changes in consciousness changes the material in my brain (and it most
> certainly does) then in what sense does materialism fail to explain
> consciousness?
>
> > according to comp
>>
>
> I can't comment on that, "comp" means whatever Bruno wants it to mean, and
> that changes from day to day.
>
>
Sure Liar Clark... as said a million times now, comp is a shorthand for
*computationalism* and it has always meant that... and always will... the
only retarded changing the meaning day to day is you.

Quentin


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