2014-09-24 19:43 GMT+02:00 John Clark <[email protected]>: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> basically the idea that consciousness supervenes on matter. >>> >> >> Yes sure... but it is not computationalism, materialism does not say >> anything about the mind being a computational object. >> > > As Russell pointed out philosophical terminology is a ridiculous mess and > it's not even consistent in it's idiocy; I don't believe this is just the > result of sloppy terminology but arises from the fact that philosophers > can't speak more clearly than they think. For example: Materialism says > that all phenomenon, even consciousness, is the result of material > interactions and somehow this is suposed to be different from > computationalism, but a record of what interacts and what does not is > information and information can be computed and understood. In fact > information is the one and ONLY thing that can be computed or understood. > > > If infinite precision is required, computationalism is obviously false >> > > If infinite precision is required then you become a new person every time > you take a sip of coffee, in fact you become a new person every time a gas > molecule from the atmosphere slams into your body, and that's about > 6.02*10^23 times every nanosecond. >
That does not follow as every change is causaly linked... it could take infinite precision to have you, a copy not done with that precision would think it is you while it's not... anyway, you assert thing without any proof, and your definition of computationalism is simply wrong... computationalism is not about *matter* but about computation, the word is not even in your definition. But hey, I do not expect you to acknowledge you are wrong on this, as you never do, and never will and never give an argument, you're just dodging with BS... that's why you're a troll. Quentin > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
