On 09 Oct 2014, at 21:06, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 09-Oct-2014, at 11:42 pm, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <multiplecit...@gmail.com
> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Samiya Illias
<samiyaill...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm. Please read this blogpost and let me know if this meets your
'demonstrating factual accuracy in this sense here, of course.':
http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2014/06/dhu-al-qarnayn-polar-regions-of-earth.html?m=1
You changed the subject and focus. Why?
I did not refer to your blog but to this:
http://www.foundalis.com/rlg/Quran_and_science.htm
You said you disagree and I asked why, which you ignored.
In the foundalis link you sent, under 1.2, it quotes Quran Chapter
18 and goes on to discuss the verses in it. It discusses Dhul
Qarnayn's travels. Therefore I sent my blogpost' link. I have
presented my study and interpretation of other aspects of Chapter 18
also in my blog listed under blog archive. I sent that link just as
an example.
If you find the approach not critical enough, perhaps you can do it
in a more scientific manner, if it interests you.
I can critically try to understand the Quran, looking up meanings
and science research on the topic, but I cannot take the falsifiable
approach simply because I'm convinced that the Arabic text of the
Quran is from God, the Master-Creator, while scientific knowledge is
what we are discovering. So, for me personally, the scripture takes
precedence.
This is problematic. You leave the scientific attitude, and you make a
quasi infinite argument per authority error. Like the catholic church
which at least condemn literalism. You might be the one doing the
blasphemy, asserting knowing a public relationship with god.
It is equivalent with: by definition I do right and you do wrong. Your
literalism is equivalent with insulting all believers not sharing your
assumption, pursuing different ways.
It would be more appropriate to search on what we all share about God.
I advocate the scientific attitude in theology. Literalism does not
help. How could we ever "religare" the literalists in different
traditions? How can you be literalist about a subject as complex as
God, known for having no real name, no image, being inconceivable,
etc. Your attitude prevents the doubt which makes possible the
progress. I think.
Bruno
Samiya
Concerning your link, I'd see that as less on-topic for following
simple reason:
That's interpretation without a critical position against it, and
this is perhaps why there is a disconnect between some of your
claims and how some members, including myself, react.
A positive aspect of science is that, when done correctly, we are
not forced to trust interpretations. That's why it would be more
instructive for me to see you address the points in the Foundalis
link, rather than what you have interpreted and convinced yourself
of already.
It creates perspective, that would enrich your points perhaps. As a
tool, science tests ideas and reasoning; and contrasting a
perspective that differs from yours, and you refuting it, would
tell me much more than personal interpretation you link to above. PGC
Samiya
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