On 10 Oct 2014, at 12:52, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <[email protected]
> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Samiya Illias
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hmm. Please read this blogpost and let me know if this meets your
'demonstrating factual accuracy in this sense here, of course.':
http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2014/06/dhu-al-qarnayn-polar-regions-of-earth.html?m=1
You changed the subject and focus. Why?
I did not refer to your blog but to this:
http://www.foundalis.com/rlg/Quran_and_science.htm
I am not a muslim, but I also disagree with the fundamental premise
of Foundalis, which I quote below. I claim that just the opposite is
true. A theory that explains already existing data is considered
less important or impressive than one that predicts data that does
not yet exist. Example are numerous, but Einstein's GR is the best
known example.
"In science we don't start with a theory and then try to find data
to support that theory. Instead, we first gather data through
observation, and then we see which theory explains best the data."
I agree, but in a sense we do start with a theory, which is our body
at birth, and we bet there is some reality capable of satisfying the
theory, but we can't prove that. Theory and data supporting the theory
is a bit like the egg and the chicken, at some level. Our brains
contains old theories on reality, they can compete.
Bruno
You said you disagree and I asked why, which you ignored.
Concerning your link, I'd see that as less on-topic for following
simple reason:
That's interpretation without a critical position against it, and
this is perhaps why there is a disconnect between some of your
claims and how some members, including myself, react.
A positive aspect of science is that, when done correctly, we are
not forced to trust interpretations. That's why it would be more
instructive for me to see you address the points in the Foundalis
link, rather than what you have interpreted and convinced yourself
of already.
It creates perspective, that would enrich your points perhaps. As a
tool, science tests ideas and reasoning; and contrasting a
perspective that differs from yours, and you refuting it, would tell
me much more than personal interpretation you link to above. PGC
Samiya
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