On 12 Oct 2014, at 05:11, meekerdb wrote:
Just like I have a problem with Bruno's theory because it imputes
consciousness to information processing like DNA,
Please Brent, on the contrary, I insist that consciousness is NEVER
just <anything 3p here>.
I never imputed consciousness to an information processing. I impute
consciousness only to a person, and indeed what I will call a first
person; the one who own close to her the diary (eneough close so that
the diary is duplicated or multipied together with the body in
duplication or superposition experiences.
the "nothing but information processing" theory needs to explain
what is different about my conscious information processing and
the great majority of my information processing which is subconscious.
That is the difference between []p and []p & p. The difference is
null, extensionally, from the point of view or the arithmetical truth.
But the difference is huge from both the body and soul points of view.
Neither []p nor []p & p will ever justify or know that []p and []p &
p define the same set of beliefs or knowledge. True, but unjustifiable.
Is there "awareness" associated with that subconscious information
processing that is just not *my* awareness?
I think so.
A brain is either two universal machines in front of each others, or
two brains in front of each others. I begin to suspect that when the
recursion is big, the sub-brains (implied by this definition) have a
person associated with them. We are already many persons in our head,
usually well integrated in the normal state of consciousness.
I explain the out-of-time experience by the fact that when you
dissociate enough, and that the sub-brains get "autistic" enough, you
can succeed with identifying yourself to the persons already aware
living "near god or near the arithmetical truth".
That could also explain the mathematical intuition.
Note that this explanation is consistent with comp, but does not seem
to be a consequence of it, today.
Bruno
Brent
On 10/11/2014 7:47 PM, LizR wrote:
Course this "nothing but information processing" view has to deal
with Bruno.
On 12 October 2014 15:46, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
Must admit I wasn't aware of that...
:-)
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