On 12 Oct 2014, at 18:51, John Clark wrote:

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> physics does not even address the problem of qualia

>> And neither does religion.

> But the greek theology did,

Baloney.

> by addressing the mind-body problem,

So the ancient Greeks said that what a thing is and what a thing does is not the same thing; I think I could have figured out that by myself without their help.

No, the ancient greeks, the hindus, and many mystics knows, like Einstein and Newton, that what a things is and what a thing does: is basically the same things. That follows from determinacy.

What the ancient greeks and the hindus, and many mystics were aware of, was the difference between what the thing is and what the thing feels to be.






> This is very general and should not annoy any set of beliefs, be it muslims, jews, christians, atheists.

If it doesn't annoy any of those groups then it's got to be philosophical pablum because a important truth will certainly annoy a great many people.


No. It means that a majority can agree on some axiom, and we can proceed.

The theories tries to be simple deep "triviality", like RA, PA, the combinators, and the QM empirical jewel, but which asks more questions.

Most religion accept that God has some relation with Truth, and as such that make already most religion coherent with a part of platonism, and the belief that there is *some* reality independent of you.


Bruno





  John K Clark


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