On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 14 October 2014 13:14, Pierz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh that is stupid beyond belief. "The argument here is that there is no > subjective impression." WTF? Maybe this guy is the best argument we have > for philosophical zombies. I suppose he means *objectively* there is no > subjective impression, but try to parse the meaning of that assertion! > > Yes, the "consciousness does not exist" claim is on the face of it so > obviously absurd that I think its proponents must mean something else > by it, such as that consciousness is epiphenomenal. > It's possibly the most absurd claim one can make, because it's precisely the only thing one can know for sure (assuming non-solipsism). I think this is an attempt at dogma, and of the worst kind. Once we accept such an idea, we necessarily lose all confidence in our own cognitive abilities. Nothing is possible anymore, because the most fundamental aspect of reality is denied. Reason is completely thrown out of the window. There is no ground to stand on. As others pointed out, if it's an illusion, who's being deceived? If this question is an abuse of language, then we might as well throw language out of the window too, because it's completely useless. Telmo. > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
