On 11 Oct 2014, at 23:05, meekerdb wrote:

Are We Really Conscious?
By MICHAEL S. A. GRAZIANO

This is the most non sensical question I can ever imagine.

The question makes sense only to conscious being.




OF the three most fundamental scientific questions about the human condition, two have been answered.

First, what is our relationship to the rest of the universe? Copernicus answered that one. We're not at the center. We're a speck in a large place.

He showed only that our apparent bodies are apparently a speck in a vaster place. We accumulated some evidences for that idea, but we still don't know, if only because we are a long way from a consensus on the meaning of the quantum, and even the meaning of arithmetic.




Second, what is our relationship to the diversity of life? Darwin answered that one.

Yes, but Darwin use computationalism explicitly, and if Darwin's explanation can work, it has to be extended on all computations in arithmetic, which leads to generalize Darwin (and Everett) on arithmetic.



Biologically speaking, we're not a special act of creation. We're a twig on the tree of evolution.

That's why biology fails on consciousness. I think. Like physics. Those continue to flirt with eliminativisme, like with the title of the thread and paper here.

Bruno


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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/12/opinion/sunday/are-we-really-conscious.html?ref=opinion


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