On 22 November 2014 05:36, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014  Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Yes the Schrodinger Wave Equation is easily reversible (and it's
>>> continuous and deterministic too), but with regard to the reversibility of
>>> time that's a irrelevant fact because the SWE is a unobservable
>>> abstraction.
>>>
>>
>> > To be sure I was reasoning assuming the usual non relativistic SWE.
>> Then it is reversible in the same unitary sense that quantum computer gates
>> are reversible, which includes the usual notion of time.
>>
>
> That is incorrect because computer gates are observable but the SWE, both
> relativistic and non relativistic, are unobservable, only the square of the
> wave is observable and then only as a probability. So the SWE may be
> reversible but it's square is not; if 4 is the product of two integers
> there is no way to know if they were 2 or -2, so you can't reverse things
> and find the previous probability, much less get back into the actual
> previous state with 100% certainty.
>
> This certainly sounds like a valid point - Bruno? The SWE (or matrices
etc) are assumed to be real, but are unobservable. Their effects are
observable but not time reversible...yes?

I'm not sure where the Wheeler-deWitt equation comes into this?

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