I don't think there's a single definition of consciousness because I think there are
different kinds, as I indicated below.
Brent
On 11/28/2014 6:37 PM, LizR wrote:
Hi Brent
I seem to remember saying that I thought perhaps consciousness is something like
"awareness of yourself and your environment" and asking if you had a better definition a
couple of days ago. Did you reply? I don't recall seeing anything.
If not - any ideas?
On 29 November 2014 at 13:39, meekerdb <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 11/28/2014 12:53 PM, LizR wrote:
On 29 November 2014 at 04:42, John Clark <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Kim Jones:
>> Yes but tell me of the examples you have found of Evolution
producing intelligence without consciousness.
> iPhones. Smart fridges. Self-driving cars. Computers. Space
probes etc. etc.
If you believe all these things are smart then fine, but what makes you
think
they're not conscious?
Because the deisgners didn't include a consciousness module, of course! :-)
Or maybe because John (and Bruno and me and probably you) use different
definitions
of "conscious". Is it:
1) Awareness = appropriate goal-directed response to some aspects of the
surroundings
2) Intelligence = learning and adapting behavior based on experience
3) Using symbolic reasoning (language) = to decide among hypothetical
actions
4) Having an inner narrative?
Brent
When Evolution made information processing devices it found it was much
much
easier to produce emotion than intelligence, so why in the world would
we find
the exact opposite to be true when we make the same sort of thing?
One possible answer - because evolution is working to a different set of
criteria.
Another possible answer - because evolution used trial and error over
millions of
years rather than designing what was needed to do a specific job.
Another possible answer - because evolution used different materials, and a
different architecture (wetware operates very differently from electronic
hardware).
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