On 29 Nov 2014, at 04:31, Kim Jones wrote:





On 29 Nov 2014, at 1:37 pm, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Brent

I seem to remember saying that I thought perhaps consciousness is something like "awareness of yourself and your environment" and asking if you had a better definition a couple of days ago. Did you reply? I don't recall seeing anything.

If not - any ideas?

Consciousness is what makes qualia possible. There are no qualia without consciousness.

And the reverse is possible too: no consciousness without some qualia.


Producing qualia is what consciousness "does". So consciousness is the "field" in which qualia exist. A quale is merely an event that I notice. Everything experienced carries a value which goes into my personal lookup table. I can then quickly recognise stuff the next time it comes along. So already, we can see that the "purpose" of consciousness is to accelerate awareness via embedded patterns of recogntion: memory. Intelligence on it's own cannot encode enough information quickly enough to aid survival. It's too slow. an amoeba has intelligence but the poor bloody things get swallowed by paramecia all the time.

Oooh... usually, it is the amoebas which swallow paramecia :)




They just don't learn. Consciousness revs the engine at a higher rate so the knowledge bedding-down process happens a whole lot quicker.

So, I prefer to define what consciousness is by what it does. I don't think there is one word that covers it.

Consciousness is a semantical fixed point. It leads to bet on self- consistency. As I have explained once this leads either to inconsistency or to self-speeding up, according to the way the self- consistency is integrated. If consistency includes the self- consistency "axiom" it leads to inconsistency (BY Gödel II), if not, it leads to self-speeding oneself, and that is very useful, especially for self-moving entity.

Note that with computationalism, without consciousness of all Löbian entities, there is no physical reality. There might be planet without conscious entities on them, and even branch of the wave without any consciousness, but without consciousness of the Löbian number, there is just no wave at all.

Bruno




Kim

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