On 11/28/2014 12:53 PM, LizR wrote:
On 29 November 2014 at 04:42, John Clark <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Kim Jones:
>> Yes but tell me of the examples you have found of Evolution
producing
intelligence without consciousness.
> iPhones. Smart fridges. Self-driving cars. Computers. Space probes
etc. etc.
If you believe all these things are smart then fine, but what makes you
think
they're not conscious?
Because the deisgners didn't include a consciousness module, of course! :-)
Or maybe because John (and Bruno and me and probably you) use different definitions of
"conscious". Is it:
1) Awareness = appropriate goal-directed response to some aspects of the
surroundings
2) Intelligence = learning and adapting behavior based on experience
3) Using symbolic reasoning (language) = to decide among hypothetical actions
4) Having an inner narrative?
Brent
When Evolution made information processing devices it found it was much
much easier
to produce emotion than intelligence, so why in the world would we find the
exact
opposite to be true when we make the same sort of thing?
One possible answer - because evolution is working to a different set of
criteria.
Another possible answer - because evolution used trial and error over millions of years
rather than designing what was needed to do a specific job.
Another possible answer - because evolution used different materials, and a different
architecture (wetware operates very differently from electronic hardware).
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