On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:47:09 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 22 Dec 2014, at 20:14, LizR wrote:
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> Sometimes allegedly conscious beings behave very unintelligently. However 
> using Bruno's distinction intelligent behaviour is conscious (goal directed 
> etc) but competent behaviour isn't.
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> So we have 3 classes of being
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> 1 conscious
> 2 intelligent
> 3 competent
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> 2 inplies 1 but 1 doesn't imply 2 so 1 is wider than 2. 3 isexclusive from 
> 1 and 2.
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> But how then to distinguish competence from intelligence?
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> With a joke.
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> Competence discerns and builds of itself. 
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> Intelligence laughs of itself.
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> Intelligence is needed to recognize our error , which is needed to develop 
> competence, but competence when developed can make intelligence sleepy, 
> laughing of the others, feeling superior, saying a lot of stupidities, etc.
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competence is admriable, always. Never mocked or belittled. it takes 
10 years to hit threshold competence in a major field of operation. Can't 
be sped up by intelligence. Isn't driven by intelligence much either. 

I couldn't endorse your rather histrionic turn of phrase...intelligence 
should be cherished. Not many have a brain with the kind of reach necessary 
for breakthrough physics, invention and social and economic revolution. Our 
geniuses are rarities....we must all try to find them, and be sure to keep 
their way clear. We owe everything to the few genius minds. Feeling it's 
all so unfair....I want to be a genius, who says I shall not? 
Tough....thank lucky stars for that peachy tight bum you've got, and the 
fact you've never had to earn a living.

intelligence, mostly gets pissed away....and where so intelligence is 
utterly worthless. I don't respect intelligence absent 
accomplishment....it's totally fucking unerned...like a pretty face. 
Breakthrough physics or bust, genius boy.

Competence...on the other hand doesn't exist unless it passes muster. 
Competance is respected......iit's much more worthy than 
intelligence....it's the stuff of the higher human things. The great 
adventurer, mountaineer, discoverer.....these are men with broad 
competencies. 

The only point of order is just that, it isn't intelligence. 

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