Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>But it is a simple and mudane facts that it means quite different things
>>> according to time, place, culture
>>>
>>
>> >> So is there any time place or culture where you would be willing to
>> say in a loud clear unequivocal voice  "I do not believe in God"?  Could
>> you ever say those words with no ifs, ands, or buts, or would the words
>> always stick in your throat?
>>
>
> > I believe in God.
>

Yes, I knew you'd say that. Even though you just said  "God" means many
things depending on the time, place and culture you apparently believe in
every single one of them because  you can't bring yourself to say  "I do
not believe in God", not in any time not in any place and not in any
culture. And that tells me that you've fallen in love with the sound your
tongue makes when it makes the "G-O-D" noise even though there is no longer
any meaning behind the sound anymore. No meaning whatsoever.


> > They called themselves muslims, but [...]
>

To hell with the "but", the people who call themselves Muslims have
murdered millions of people just in the last few years and oppressed a
billion, and the people who call themselves Muslims won't be satisfied
until they've oppressed all 7.1 billion people on the planet. Meanwhile the
so called moderate Muslim remains as hard to find as the Abominable Snowman
and has about as much effect on world events as the space alien in Roswell
New Mexico.  Peaceful Muslims may exist but they share many of the same
very bad ideas as suicidal lunatic Muslims do, and as Bill Maher has said
when there are that many bad apples maybe there is something wrong with the
orchard.

>>> They performed sacrifices, human and otherwise, to gain the favor of
>>> their "God", and they built temples to their "God", and they built statues
>>> of their "God" that was supposed to show what "God" looked like. In some
>>> cases the statues seems to have actually become their "God". But how do you
>>> build a statue of the inflation field? Does the inflation field have a
>>> beard?
>>>
>>
>> >> Where are all these God believers who built no temples, made no
>> statues, performed no sacrifices and said no prayers that you keep talking
>> about?
>>
>
>
> Most remain silent.
>

Yes exactly, they remained silent and thus had little or no effect on world
events, just as nearly all Muslims remain silent over the murders committed
in the name of Islam.

>> Where are all the leaders who say they did NOT hear God's voice telling
>> them what to do?
>>
>
> > Plato, Plotinus, etc.
>

And how many divisions did Plato and Plotinus command? How many square
miles did their armies conquer?

>> Where are all the nations or city-states or tribes who say God is NOT on
>> our side in this war?
>>
>
> > The same. In occident, religion has become silly,
>

The idea that there is a personal God and He looks sorta like us us was not
invented in the west and the idea is not new, statues of fertility Gods
have been found as early as 35,000 BC, the Venus of Hohle Fels for example.
But yes, it has always been silly, you'd have thought we would have
outgrown that sort of imbecility by now but we have not.

  John K Clark

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