I don't know if I'm a likable fellow, and I'd say probably not, but thanks. The war and clash of civilizations thing comes up in the absence of some better alternative. Being overly polite with the Islamists leads to Boko Haram and Paris, I truly believe, because they view gentleness as weakness. The killings are worldwide, in places, on a far smaller scale as in Thailand and the Philippines and India. The reason, in large part, is the Islamists want to achieve immediate entrance to Janah, or Paradise, where they get endless access to women, and good times forever, for sacrificing now. This is one reason. In a way, this is akin to letting the 3rd Reich or Japanese imperialists gain power and momentum in a war, which most nations didn't want-then war becomes the only solution, because things then become existential. This seems to be happening once more with the Islamists-which appear to be gaining momentum today.
Points to be remembered on this forum. No I don't have the proper answer, nor do I have influence to effect events, for good or ill. It's just my attempt at problem solving, and sometimes being bloody-minded is something that needs to be thought through, before choosing a better option. That is if we have options? -----Original Message----- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jan 16, 2015 2:06 am Subject: RE: Democracy From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 12:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Democracy Brent says true, in that terrorism is a method, not an end in itself. I wonder if people would agree to the terms, as a war against Islamist extremists, or radical Jihadis or? I think naming the enemies of freedom and peace in the middle east in nigeria with boko haram, and today in belgium (Hi Bruno) would be more acceptable, in that its limited targets, for a limited duration. Also, the mean of 'war' need not be violent, because you can't beat an idea with war alone. You’re a far more likable fellow, when you don’t do the gung ho go to war talk. P.S. What Boko Harem did in the towns of Baga and Doron Baga – during the same days as what went on in France FYI – is a first order war crime. They massacred 2,500 people (Muslim African people) and destroyed almost 4,000 buildings, literally razing those towns to the ground. They surely should be hunted down and arrested for their horrible war crimes, including the enslavement of all those school girls, but it should be a police action, not a war, and certainly not a crusade! Bastards like that don’t deserve the honor of being treated as enemies, they are criminal murderous thugs, and in a just world would be brought to face justice. -Chris -----Original Message----- From: meekerdb <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 1:04 pm Subject: Re: Democracy On 1/14/2015 11:52 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: In case no one has noticed, our dear president Obama has changed the rhetoric used as cover for our Orwellian systems state of permanent war…. The term “War on Terror” is bad enough, it implies an endless war requiring an Orwellian intrusive state. But at least it seemed circumscribed to opponents it could describe as being involved in terror. Obama is now calling it the “War on extremism”. That term sends Orwellian shivers down my spine; it is so broad and arbitrary in nature and can be used to describe any and all opponents. Sigh, everybody's so paranoid about government. Obama started using "extremism" because the chattering classes kept pointing out that terrorism is just a tactic and you can't make war on a tactic. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
