On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:46 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/15/2015 8:31 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > > > > > On 16 Jan 2015, at 5:18 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 1/15/2015 3:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > It is the reason why I stopped, a long time ago, to qualify myself as an > atheist. I realized that atheists believe to much in the christian God, > paradoxically enough. > > > By your logic one cannot disbelieve in anything because to do so you have > to conceive of what it is your are failing to believe (otherwise you don't > know what you're talking about); > > > > Well, yes. Of course you have to be able to conceive of what you are > going to make a choice to believe in or not! Implying that you "have the > right" to disbelieve in something you cannot conceive of is the height of > sophistry. You are merely testifying to the limitation of your own, or of > human imagination but that is precisely the terrain we are treading here: > the interface of human ignorance with what is really real. > > Of course the human imagination cannot conceive of God the way God is. > This is because WE ARE ALL THE EYES AND EARS OF GOD. The eye cannot see > itself. The hammer cannot hit itself. It can only infer it's true nature > using the imagination and HOPE that the description adopted is exact. It > never is. We cannot know what or who we are. It's a pretty miserable state > of affairs, particularly if you are a hard-nosed scientist, I gather. > > > Hard-nosed scientists are inured to not knowing things. It's mystics who > insist on making up an answer because they are uncomfortable with > uncertainty. > "Not knowing" a- (not) -gnostic (know) If scientists are inured to not knowing, why not consider yourself agnostic? Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

