On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]>
wrote:

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> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 02 Feb 2015, at 06:37, Samiya Illias wrote:
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>> On 02-Feb-2015, at 6:12 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 2 February 2015 at 00:15, Samiya Illias <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:01 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> There is a difference between advancing a theory in a spirit of
>>>> agnosticism and being convinced you know the truth and that everyone else
>>>> is wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm...
>>> Someday, I hope and pray, when you're blessed with faith, perhaps you'll
>>> understand me.
>>>
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>>
>> As other observed that's close to the worst authority argument. By
>> "worst" I don't make a moral judgment, but it is worst in the sense that it
>> is not just invalid, but it makes the honest people automatically doubting
>> your message.
>>
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> I am not presenting an argument above. I'm just saying that this is
> something to do with feeling/experiencing/qualia?
>

Feelings, woo-o-o feeling it,
woo-o-o, feeling again in my arms
Feelings

Feelings, nothing more than feelings
Trying to forget my feelings of love
Teardrops rolling down on my face
Trying to forget my feelings of love


> so I cannot explain it nor do I expect anyone who doesn't to understand
> it. I know its not valid. That is why I hope Someday...
>

I hope someday, that if something is not valid, you don't pretend as if it
were valid...


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>>> And vice versa, if you are blessed with faith in reason.
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>> Thanks! :)
>>
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>> Reason is the best tool, if not the only tool (at some level)
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> I agree. Reason is a tool, and perhaps the best tool, which is to be used
> to approach reality.
>

Depends. Sometimes certain feelings, fanatic types, their books taken
literally etc. get in the way.


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>
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>> to survive the unreasonable (arithmetical)  reality, and to maximize
>> partial relative control.
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>> Unfortunately "reason" gives the ability to lie and manipulate the others
>> at different levels.
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> Both reason and religion have been abused over and over again
>

Sometimes in the name of Feelings, woo-o-o feeling it, woo-o-o, feeling
again in my arms... Feelings. PGC

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