On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> It's not just humans, the light sensitive cells of ALL vertebrate >> animals are on the wrong side. The worst human designer on the planet >> wouldn't do anything that dumb, and certainly would not keep making the >> exact same mistake again and again many millions of times. If God exists He >> is a imbecile. > > > > it is not clear why you say that God made the mistake many millions of > times. > The first vertebrate came about 500 million years ago, and since that time there have been millions of species and trillions of individuals, and in every single case God makes the exact same brain dead dumb mistake and puts the light sensitive parts on the WRONG side. And the vertebrate eye is far from the only blunder in our "design". > He might have done it only one time, and then duplicated it. There is virtually no doubt that is exactly what did happen, and that is exactly what you'd expect to happen if "He" was a simple process with zero intelligence (Evolution), and that is exactly what you'd expect NOT to happen if "He" was a being with infinite intelligence, or even if "He" had a IQ above room temperature. >. hmm, imbecile is too strong and provocative, let us say innocent. > I disagree. Even a innocent would know that you can't pour water into a cup if it's upside down, and he would also know that you should point the lights sensitive part of camera film or a CCD chip or the retina of a eye TOWARD the light, only a imbecile would find that concept confusing. > There are other possibilities: - God created the invertebrates, and the > vertebrates were created by something or someone else. The invertebrates are full of design blunders too, in fact the very DNA genetic code that ALL life on this planet uses is a stupid mess. I've made this point before but it's worth repeating. Soon after Francis Crick co-discovered the DNA double helix in 1953 he started to think about the genetic code. At the time only a few of the base triplets that map to amino acids were known, he thought he could find the remaining ones by theory alone, without experiment. When a ribosome reads a piece of RNA it can contain many millions of bases ATCCGATTC... and NO commas. Crick reasoned that just starting at the beginning and reading 3 at a time would be crazy. If you ever get out of phase by one or two you'd have no way to detect the phase error and the ribosome would make the wrong protein. It'd be like reading a book with no punctuation and nospacebetweenthewords, no engineer would stand for such a foolish design. Crick devised a code that if read in the correct phase all the triplets make sense, if read out of phase all the triplets would be nonsense, that is, they wouldn't map to any amino acid. Now the cell would know when it was reading RNA out of phase. He thought he understood why life only used 20 amino acids, his scheme would work with 20 amino acids it wouldn't work with 21. Cricks code was simple, efficient, elegant, fault tolerant and completely wrong. The real genetic code was found by experiment a few years later. Incredibly the ribosome really does just start at the beginning and plod along 3 at a time, if it gets out of phase and makes the wrong protein, well, that's just too bad. > > God created all animals, and put the eyes nerves on the "wrong" side for > a good reason, which our own stupidity prevents the finding In other words, "God works in mysterious ways" the same craven response the religious always give when somebody points out the rampant nonsense inherent in the God theory. And by the way, if whenever I point out something stupid about life's design you can say it's really brilliant we just don't understand why then whenever you point out something smart about life's design can I say it's really imbecilic we just don't understand why? > God is not a person, so that "imbecile" does not apply to it. If God is not a person, not a intelligent conscious being, then and logically you would have to say God does not exist, unless that is you were in love with the English word G-O-D but not with the idea behind it. > God created the number 0, and its successors, and He said ... OK. > Then he told the numbers: add. And He said ... OK. > Then he told the numbers: multiply, and He said ... Oops! > Then He told the numbers to divide and when He saw zero try to do what He commanded God said Oops yet again. John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
