On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:49 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

 > So nobody could correctly judge consciousness of other persons before
> 1859 because they couldn't assume Darwins' theory of evolution
>

But in 1859 EVERYBODY could and DID assume that if something behaved
intelligently then it was conscious, that's why they thought their fellow
human beings were conscious when they were not sleeping or dead. And nobody
had any problem with that idea until computers came along, but after that
some were disturbed by what the confluence of that idea and computers
produced, so despite the fact that it was contrary to all logic they
decided that it just can't be true. But reality is the way things are and
it doesn't matter if you like it or not.

  John K Clark






> (having never heard of it).  That they were conscious and that other
> people very similar to them behaved as they did when conscious told the
> them absolutely nothing about whether those other people were conscious.  I
> suppose people were greatly relieved to learn that they were not alone in
> being conscious when they read "On the Origin of Species by Natural
> Selection".
>
> Brent
>
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