Le 28 mars 2015 21:53, "meekerdb" <meeke...@verizon.net> a écrit : > > On 3/28/2015 1:32 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> > But that seems to rely on something (a soul) in addition to the numbers that is conscious and supplies the meaning. >> >> No it's like current image recognition programs, the "meaning" built by running the neuronals network algorithm is internal to the program. > > > The meaning is still only relative to other things the program recognizes. As I understand it a program can learn to recognize cats in videos; but it doesn't know anything except cat and not-cat. In principle it can go on to recognize dogs and relations like dog-chases-cat. But the meaning then of its state or even a sequence of states depends on all those relations and objects it has inferred. It's just compressed information from the videos and the meaning comes from them and is made possible by their regularities.
But *in the end* all of what the program as access to is its inputs. If you impose them to be from a 'real' external world, it's the same as saying computationalism is false by virtue of computations alone. Quentin > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
