On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:37:36AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Russell Standish <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:17:00AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Russell Standish <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have always disagreed with this. The movie+broken gates is still a > > > > computation, just a rather simple one. Playing a movie in (eg) > > > > SMPlayer is still running a computation. > > > > > > > > > > And I have never understood how that doesn't void significance of 1p > > views. > > > If this is totally tight, correct, mechanistic 3p view, then you get > > > corresponding complete absence of meaning on 1p level of person/machine's > > > discourse. > > > > Happy April fool's to you! > > > > More seriously though, I haven't the foggiest what you mean. Even your > > follow on prose doesn't help. > > > > > Why would the fact that playing a recording is a computation void > > significance of 1p views? > > > > Because it weakens/relativizes the difference between counterfactual > possibility instantiating computation and say the > numbers/sequences/patterns of a movie on my phone. >
I really don't know what your push back is. The program consisting of the nop instruction 1000 times in a row, followed by the halt instruction is a perfectly valid program, and running it on a machine is a perfectly valid computation, albeit a rather trivial one. There are no counterfactuals involved. The program will do the same thing regardless of what the CPU registers contain Playing a recording is just a slightly more complex version of the same thing. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
