On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:17:00AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> > wrote: > > > > > I have always disagreed with this. The movie+broken gates is still a > > computation, just a rather simple one. Playing a movie in (eg) > > SMPlayer is still running a computation. > > > > And I have never understood how that doesn't void significance of 1p views. > If this is totally tight, correct, mechanistic 3p view, then you get > corresponding complete absence of meaning on 1p level of person/machine's > discourse.
Happy April fool's to you! More seriously though, I haven't the foggiest what you mean. Even your follow on prose doesn't help. Why would the fact that playing a recording is a computation void significance of 1p views? What it does do is show that the MGA does not derive a logical contradiction, as Quentin asserts, but is rather an intuition pump. Of course, I do suspect that an accurate (but not counterfactually correct) recording of a single computational run is insufficient to instantiate a conscious entity. But I don't know so as a proven fact, and that, I feel, is a weakness in the MGA. I also suspect that a counterfactually correct recording would be so sufficient, but a) that implies a robust universe, and b) is probably impossible due to the quantum no-cloning theorem. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
