On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:17:00AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Russell Standish <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I have always disagreed with this. The movie+broken gates is still a > > computation, just a rather simple one. Playing a movie in (eg) > > SMPlayer is still running a computation. > > > > And I have never understood how that doesn't void significance of 1p views. > If this is totally tight, correct, mechanistic 3p view, then you get > corresponding complete absence of meaning on 1p level of person/machine's > discourse.
Happy April fool's to you! More seriously though, I haven't the foggiest what you mean. Even your follow on prose doesn't help. Why would the fact that playing a recording is a computation void significance of 1p views? What it does do is show that the MGA does not derive a logical contradiction, as Quentin asserts, but is rather an intuition pump. Of course, I do suspect that an accurate (but not counterfactually correct) recording of a single computational run is insufficient to instantiate a conscious entity. But I don't know so as a proven fact, and that, I feel, is a weakness in the MGA. I also suspect that a counterfactually correct recording would be so sufficient, but a) that implies a robust universe, and b) is probably impossible due to the quantum no-cloning theorem. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
