On 5/8/2015 1:33 AM, LizR wrote:
On 8 May 2015 at 18:37, meekerdb <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 07 May 2015, at 14:45, Bruce Kellett wrote:


            We can use an original biological brain, or an equivalent digital
            replacement -- it does not make any significant difference to the 
argument.
            The first point is that in some conscious experience, be it a dream 
or
            anything else, there might be a portion of the 'brain' (in quotes 
because it
            can be biological or digital) that is not activated, so this can be 
removed
            without affecting the conscious experience.


    This idea of removing unused parts of brain so only "active" elements 
remain, seems
    problematic to me and not just because of counterfactual correctness.  The 
ability
    to do this is implicit in the assumption that the physics of the brain is 
classical.


But comp is based on the assumption that consciousness is the result of classical computation. If that assumption's wrong then comp fails, of course, from step 0 - no need to worry about the MGA.

Bruno points out that a classical computer can compute anything that a quantum computer can so it doesn't exactly fail; what I think it implies that the classical computation must include the "environemnt", i.e. all the extra physical degrees of freedom and entanglement that make the brain computation (approximately) classical.

Brent

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