On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Russell Standish <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 09:02:29AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> >
> > In 1987, when I present the argument, in the room some come up with
> > similar idea, and I answered. But some told me after that when
> > people come up with idea like a recording is conscious, or 2+2 might
>
> Really? Why are people so quick to accept that conscious recordings
> are absurd? Sure I can understand that Bogie in the screen version of
> Casablanca is not conscious, but that is not the sort of recording
> we're talking about. Here we're talking about something like an EEG
> pattern where every neuron is recorded, as well as the entire
> connectome. Why is it any more absurd for that to be be conscious than
> it is for the original lump of grey goo to be conscious? After all,
> the ancient Egyptians thought it a prepostuous idea, and would chuck
> the brains out when mummifying the Pharoahs.
>
> I don't think intuition is a reliable guide here, which is why I focus
> more on counterfactual correctness, which is at least something that
> can be grasped rigorously.
>
>
>
Perhaps one way of looking at it that makes it more intuitive is that a
mirror implements a recording and playback aparatus. The farther away it
is, the more delayed the playback. But few would attribute consciousness to
 their reflection.

Jason

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