On 9 May 2015 at 17:59, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 01:41:46PM +1200, LizR wrote: > > On 9 May 2015 at 13:07, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 09:02:29AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > > > > > In 1987, when I present the argument, in the room some come up with > > > > similar idea, and I answered. But some told me after that when > > > > people come up with idea like a recording is conscious, or 2+2 might > > > > > > Really? Why are people so quick to accept that conscious recordings > > > are absurd? Sure I can understand that Bogie in the screen version of > > > Casablanca is not conscious, but that is not the sort of recording > > > we're talking about. Here we're talking about something like an EEG > > > pattern where every neuron is recorded, as well as the entire > > > connectome. Why is it any more absurd for that to be be conscious than > > > it is for the original lump of grey goo to be conscious? > > > > > > I suspect that saying a recording is conscious is seen as a form of > > eliminativism - the thinking is something like, if a recording can be > > conscious, then consciousness can't actually exist. > > > > How does that work? > As I said it's only a suspicion, but if I'm correct, it's a sort of reverse of the argument from incredulity regarding recordings not being conscious. It would go something like, if a recording is conscious, then maybe consciousness is just an illusion - if the same behaviour comes out of a recording as a brain, what is a brain doing that's worth writing home about? Something like that. I don't have time to think this through in much depth at the moment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
