On 9 May 2015 at 17:59, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 01:41:46PM +1200, LizR wrote: > > On 9 May 2015 at 13:07, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 09:02:29AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > > > > > In 1987, when I present the argument, in the room some come up with > > > > similar idea, and I answered. But some told me after that when > > > > people come up with idea like a recording is conscious, or 2+2 might > > > > > > Really? Why are people so quick to accept that conscious recordings > > > are absurd? Sure I can understand that Bogie in the screen version of > > > Casablanca is not conscious, but that is not the sort of recording > > > we're talking about. Here we're talking about something like an EEG > > > pattern where every neuron is recorded, as well as the entire > > > connectome. Why is it any more absurd for that to be be conscious than > > > it is for the original lump of grey goo to be conscious? > > > > > > I suspect that saying a recording is conscious is seen as a form of > > eliminativism - the thinking is something like, if a recording can be > > conscious, then consciousness can't actually exist. > > > > How does that work? > As I said it's only a suspicion, but if I'm correct, it's a sort of reverse of the argument from incredulity regarding recordings not being conscious. It would go something like, if a recording is conscious, then maybe consciousness is just an illusion - if the same behaviour comes out of a recording as a brain, what is a brain doing that's worth writing home about? Something like that. I don't have time to think this through in much depth at the moment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
