On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Whether post-duplication-machine or post-many-worlds-duplication, "I" > refers to the person having a subjective experience. > OK. > > > Post duplication, we both agree that the persons diverge in either > scenario. So there are two first-person experiences, but we can refer to > *THE* first-person experience of either person: > But you can't refer to *THE* future first-person experience of the Helsinki Man because that is plural not singular if a duplicating chamber is involved. And that's why the question "what one city will he see?" is ridiculous; you in effect said the same thing yourself in your last post when you admitted that personal pronouns must be used and not their referent because they have no referent. In other words in Bruno's thought experiment all the many personal pronouns in it are utterly ridiculous and have no more meaning than a burp. > > The reasons you are giving why they are not equivalent only bear on the > third-person perspective: Two first person perspectives are NOT equivalent to one third party perspective. And in Bruno's thought experiment there is simply no alternative, like it or not after the duplication there are two first person perspectives around (that's what duplication means) so they must be dealt with. > . > > > consciousness supervenes on physical brains (assuming computationalism) > Yes, and considering the gargantuan amount of evidence in its favor only a fool would not assume computationalism . John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
