On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:43 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> Terren Suydam <[email protected]>
>
> *​> ​What is it like to be a person going through a duplication
>> experience?  *
>>
>
> I know from experience that ​you expect one and only ​one answer to that
> question but such a answer does not exist.
>
> ​>
>> ​ ​
>> I'd be interested to hear your take on exactly that... what would it be
>> like?
>
>
> ​I walk into the duplicating chamber and then see Moscow AND
> I walk into the duplicating chamber and then see
> ​ Washington. I know that you and most members of this list don't like
> that answer because they find it odd, well tough, odd things happen
> in duplicating chambers. Reality can't be paradoxical but is under
> no obligation not to be odd.   ​
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> If you do take up the challenge, please stay with the first-person
>> perspective.
>>
>
> ​I can't, ​
>
> ​you just walked into a duplicating chamber and you has been duplicated;
> so formerly there was one first-person perspective ​but now there are two
> f
> irst-person perspective
> ​s because that's what "duplicated" means. So there is no such thing as
> *THE* first person perspective, all I can give you is *A* ​
> first person perspective
> ​.  And I already know how you will respond to ​what I just said, it's the
> same thing that Bruno has parroted over and over again "that's only from
> the 3p" as if that sequence of ASCII characters actually meant something.
>
>
>> * ​> ​a duplication experiment is indistinguishable from a many-worlds
>> splitting. *
>>
>
> ​No it is not and I have explained several times ​exactly why it is not
> and you have not disputed what I said but instead have simply repeated that
> they are indistinguishable despite the FACT that anyone  can easily
> distinguish 2  Terren Suydam​s in one case but only one in the other. ​
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> I don't understand why you won't address these. It's the heart of the
>> matter.
>>
>
> ​The  heart of the matter is I can't give an answer to
> a gibberish question.
>
>   John K Clark
>
>
OK, I'm tapping out of this thread. I can't say that you've said anything
that would lead me to believe you have a sincere, intellectually honest
desire to address the arguments, and I don't think you've refuted anything
about step 3. The much easier read is that you've got some kind of an axe
to grind and enjoy being a contrarian. I've enjoyed a lot of what you've
written over the years, and you do keep people honest, but your fetish for
certainty makes for dull, circular arguments that go nowhere. Just my 2
cents, take or leave.

Terren

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