On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 04:51:15PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
> On 30 Jun 2015, at 05:25, John Clark wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Jun 29, 2015  spudboy100 via Everything List
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >​> ​Perhaps determinism arrives in ways we cannot yet measure, but
> >can only speculate about?
> >
> >​As I said, we know from experiment that at least one of the 3
> >MUST be wrong, realism determinism or locality. To my mind the
> >loss of determinism would be FAR less disturbing than the loss of
> >either of the other two, but of course the universe may have other
> >ideas.
> 
> 
> What do you mean by "realism"?
> 

I assume he is referring to the Bell theorem. Realism, in this
context, means something like particles having a well defined state at
all times, ie having hidden variables, essentially.

Cheers

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