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n Sun, Jun 28, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> I don't disagree with your dissertation on chaos versus randomness. So
> your point is chaos can be described as energy rich, and entropy as energy,
> very-poor.


​Energy is conserved ​so orderly or chaotic the energy of a system always
remains the same, but the entropy does not, it always increases. Two
systems may have equal energy but you can extract more work out of a low
entropy system than a high one. Work means a force applied over a distance
so entropy can be thought of as the ability a system has to concentrate its
energy. A box of very hot gas would have  lot of energy, the atoms in the
gas would be moving very rapidly, but if it was all at the same temperature
the gas would have a high entropy and thus there would be no way to make
those atoms to team up and move in just one direction and do some work. But
if the left half of the box had hot atoms and right half cold atoms then it
would have low entropy and you get things to move in one particular
direction and do work.


> ​> ​
> Your cigarette smoke example, is caused by the dissipated smoke colliding
> with random (hee hee) air currents.
>

​Air currents ​are not random, but the vibration of air molecules is.


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Even the randomness of a program's random number generator was designed.

​No program can produce true randomness, for that you need hardware that
obeys the laws of physics.

 John K Clark ​

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