Don't you wonder that this  incomputability, is created by the inadequacy of 
the instruments and systems we employ? The super advanced computer won't change 
the laws of physics, but it can and does highlight aspects that we have 
under-appreciated, or ignored. Another question is, does space-time compute at 
the Planck width and can it ever be measured if it is there to be discovered?  
 

 

 

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From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2015 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark


 
  
   
  
  
   
    ​O​    n Sun, Jun 28, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List     
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            ​> ​      I don't disagree with your dissertation on chaos versus 
randomness. So your point is chaos can be described as energy rich, and entropy 
as energy, very-poor.     
    
     
    
    
     
​Energy is conserved ​so orderly or chaotic the energy of a system always 
remains the same, but the entropy does not, it always increases. Two systems 
may have equal energy but you can extract more work out of a low entropy system 
than a high one. Work means a force applied over a distance so entropy can be 
thought of as the ability a system has to concentrate its energy. A box of very 
hot gas would have  lot of energy, the atoms in the gas would be moving very 
rapidly, but if it was all at the same temperature the gas would have a high 
entropy and thus there would be no way to make those atoms to team up and move 
in just one direction and do some work. But if the left half of the box had hot 
atoms and right half cold atoms then it would have low entropy and you get 
things to move in one particular direction and do work.           
    
    
      
    
    
           ​> ​      Your cigarette smoke example, is caused by the dissipated 
smoke colliding with random (hee hee) air currents. 
    
    
     
    
    
     
​Air currents ​are not random, but the vibration of air molecules is.     
     
    
    
      ​> ​          Even the randomness of a program's random number generator 
was designed.     
    
     
    
    
     ​No program can produce true randomness, for that you need hardware that 
obeys the laws of physics.         
    
           
         
    
      John K Clark ​          
    
     
    
    
     
   
   
  
 
  
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