On 01 Jul 2015, at 19:43, John Clark wrote:

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Terren Suydam <[email protected] > wrote:

​> ​the step 3 argument I and others are making is a lot easier to defend than your position,

​It's very easy to defend as long as lots and lots of personal pronouns are used, they're a wonderful dumping ground for sloppy thinking.​

​>> ​​Case #1: ​Nobody, absolutely nobody can observe more than one Terren Suydam, not even Terren Suydam. Case #2: Everybody, absolutely everybody can observe an unlimited number of Terren Suydams, including Terren Suydam. Coherently explain how these 2 cases are equivalent and Terren Suydam has won the argument and John Clark will change John Clark's ideas on the subject.

​> ​I've already agreed that the two scenarios are not equivalent from the third-person perspective, but they are equivalent from the first-person perspective.

​In case #1 ​Terren Suydam​ can find only one person who has the right to be called ​Terren Suydam​, in case #2 ​ Terren Suydam​ can find an unlimited number of people ​who have an equal right to be called Terren Suydam​. How are these 2 cases equivalent to ​Terren Suydam​? And if that isn't "the first-person perspective​" what is?

That is a 3-1 difference. Explain how that can lead to a 1-difference (assuming computationalism of course).

Bruno



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  John K Clark​

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