On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]>
wrote:

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>>> ​>>​
>>> ​
>>> they're not Helsinki man anymore. They both were, but then they diverged
>>> .
>>
>>
>> ​
>> ​>> ​
>> Let's assume you're correct, then if the referent of the personal pronoun
>> "you" in the question "what city will you see?" is the Helsinki man (and I
>> don't know what else it could be) then the correct answer would be "I will
>> see no city whatsoever, oblivion awaits". But we both agreed that "you"
>> would survive the duplicating procedure, so your initial assumption must be
>> incorrect and the Helsinki man is still around. And because there is no
>> logical reason to favor one city over the other The Helsinki Man must
>> survive in BOTH Moscow AND Washington. QED.
>>
>
> ​> ​
> You're the one with the problem with personal pronouns. I'm not using
> them, so I'm baffled as to why you're bringing them back in.
>
> ​All I want is to understand what you meant

​by "​
they're not Helsinki man anymore. They both were, but then they diverged
​", ​and to do that all I really need is to understand exactly what you
mean by "The Helsinki Man". I thought it meant somebody who remembers being
"The Helsinki Man" yesterday ,but obviously you think it means something
else and I'd just like to know what it is.

> ​> ​
> To save time I will include the standard reminder that it doesn't
> matter whether observers of either experiment would have ambiguities with
> the personal identity of the participants.
>
> ​But if you're describing the outcome of an experiment (thought or
otherwise) ambiguities most certainly DO matter! Otherwise it's not
science, it's not even philosophy, its more like very bad poetry.

 John K Clark   ​

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