On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> The heart of the matter is I can't give an answer to >> a gibberish question. > > > > How could the question be gibberish when computationalism make it easy to > understand. > > You are in Helsinki. OK. I hope this use of "you" is not ambiguous. > Wishing does not make it so. Does "you" mean John Clark who is currently experiencing Helsinki, or does "you" mean John Clark who remembers experiencing Helsinki? > > > And you will remain alive in the duplication experience (you agreed on > this) > I agreed if "you" means John Clark, but not if "you" means the man currently experiencing Helsinki because according to the thought experiment in the future nobody will be experiencing Helsinki. > > > and you are the guy, and will remain the guy, with that memory of your > time in Helsinki. So no ambiguity. > OK good that is not ambiguous and is clear as a bell, "you" are the guys who remember being John Clark the Helsinki Man, and so "you" will indeed survive. > > How would you (that you, still in Helsinki) evaluate the probability or > plausibility that you will experience, after pushing on the button: > 1) opening a door of a reconstitution box? > 0%, "you" will not open "a door", but there is a 100% chance "you" will open 2 doors. 2) opening a door of a reconstitution box and see one and only one city? > 0% > 3) opening the door of a reconstitution box and see two cities at once? > 100% > > > Note that by definition of first person experience, "seeing two cities at > once" means literally being a person > [blah blah] > STOP RIGHT THERE! If as Bruno Marchal just said "you" means the guys who remember being John Clark the Helsinki Man then after the duplication there is not "a person" who fits that description, there are "persons" who fit that description . If Bruno Marchal no longer likes that definition of "you" then change it, or better yet just stop using those goddamn ambiguous personal pronouns and use the referent instead. John K Clark > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
