Brent:
did it slip your mind that your friend, the prez started the Arab Awakening
by stabbing Mubarak in the back by his letter and supporting the US-enemy
Morsi ("The first DEMOCRATICALLY(?) elected Egyptian prez and his
Brotherhood!!!) together with his then Foreign Sec'y Hillary, giving
billions in weapons etc.
- then again he stuffed the investors' etc. pockets with our health-care
billion dollars and
sent further hundredthousand Americans to their demise in the Middle East
(very few come home sane and safe)
and so on and on. But he is a religious(?) chap.
Atheism is more than just absence of belief IMO: it requires a supernatural
to disbelief in it. I look at a 'religiously motivated violence' with
suspicion since I still look for a fitting definition for 'religious'. I
asked Samiya where does 'Satan' come into the picture in vain. IMO every
thinking person starts out with SOME belief (e.g. the existence (reality?)
of an infinite complexity we like to call 'WORLD'' of which we only know a
small fraction.)
Telmo's 'douchebag' is a criminal: he lured character-weak persons into his
casinos to take their money (legitimately!) and added it to his billions.
Every gambling Bigboss is a criminal. I saw too much in my 93 years so far.
I am not an ''A"- THEIST, I am an ágnostic.
JM
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:32 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/9/2015 6:33 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>
> Brent, false! They killed to suppress religious belief, and exterminate
> believers,
>
>
> Nonsense. You've swallowed the religious propaganda. The killings were
> purely punishment for opposing the regime or not working hard enough for it.
>
> and yes they were totalitarian and many atheists claim not to be. They
> killed to support atheism, which is indisputable,
>
>
> It's not only disputable, it's unevidenced. They didn't care what people
> believed about the supernatural, just so they didn't oppose the regime.
>
> and out of loyalty to Mao, Stalin, and your pal Bamers, Oops! Did I say
> that?
>
>
> You mean President Obama, the guy passed universal health insurance and
> ended U.S. occupation of Iraq and has avoided getting us into a war in
> Egypt, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Ukraine and all those other places you'd like
> send your fellow citizens to attack?
>
> The bigger question is why doesn't religious belief or atheism reduce
> violence?
>
>
> Atheism is just and absence of belief, so it's not surprising that it has
> little bearing on violence. It's only effect would be to reduce
> religiously motivated violence, e.g. ISIS or the IRA. Religious beliefs
> are all over the place, from,"Love everyone as your brother." to "If they
> don't want to worship God kill them."
>
> Brent
>
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