On Mon, Aug 17, 2015  Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​>> ​
>> First of all what somebody expects to happen has no bearing on this
>> matter,only what does happen is important .
>
>

​> ​
> NOT AT ALL.
>

Bruno Marchal
​ expects one thing to happen, John Clark expects another thing to happen
and Ed expects a third, we can't all be right but we can all be wrong.​


> ​> ​
> What does happen is 3p, and the question is about the 1p.
>

What! So whatever really does happen to ​
Bruno Marchal
​ after the duplication there will be no 1p? After the duplication
 ​
Bruno Marchal
​ will have no subjective experience?? ​


> ​> ​
> You just change the question asked.
>

​No I didn't change a question, I changed gibberish into a question. ​


​>>   ​
> And secondly the entire question is "what will happen to you AFTER YOU
> HAVE BEEN DUPLICATED?".


> ​> ​
> AFTER, yes. But the question is asked before.
>

​To answer the question "what one and only one thing will happen to you
AFTER the duplication?" ​there must be a clear understanding of what one
and only one thing YOU will be AFTER the duplication when YOU is no longer
one and has become *TWO*. And a clear understanding of gibberish can never
happen so there is no answer because there is no question. However if we
asked "what will happen to Ed after the duplication?" then that question
would not be gibberish and if Ed were rational Ed could correctly answer
it.

​> ​
> And comp makes this predictable in advance.
>

​I don't care what "comp" does.​

​>> ​
>> ​I know what ​computationalism
>> ​ is, and countless times on this ​list I've seen "according to comp this
>> will happen but  according to comp that will not happen"; so I know that
>> "comp" and
>> computationalism
>> ​are not the same thing and are not even close, but what "comp" actually
>> is remains a mystery to me.​
>>
>
> ​> ​
> Comp means computationalism
>

​I know what ​computationalism
​ is, and countless times on this ​list I've seen "according to comp this
will happen but according to comp that will not happen"; so I know that
"comp" and
computationalism
​are not the same thing and are not even close, but what "comp" actually is
remains a mystery to me.​


​  John K Clark​

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