On 05 Oct 2015, at 00:52, Kim Jones wrote:
On 1 Oct 2015, at 3:25 AM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
When I say "physical computation" and you demand a definition of
that and when I respond with "a computation done with physics" and
you demand a definition of that too then I believe it is perfectly
acceptable for me to either get off the silly definition merry-go-
round or to demand a definition of my own, a definition of
definition.
You are here painting yourself with a very fine brush as what you
are. An academic. A useless bloody argumentative broom handle-up-the-
arse straighto from the planet Dork. You are out to win argument
only, not boldly explore consequences of interesting ideas. That is
beyond you; you are a mental midget; the equivalent of someone who
thinks its really smart to shoot a giraffe or a lion and then pose
for a photo against the carcass. You just love it when people engage
with you at all over anything at all because this allows you to
indulge in this very sporting activity favourite. You are sick. This
list might have moved on from this ridiculous bottleneck years ago
but for you. There used to be a lively exchange of ideas going on
here.
Academic? No need to insult people. The only thing which matters is
that his argument are invalid. Not all academic are invalid when
thinking on this subject, and very often non-academic can be invalid,
which is normal as the TOE has to be highly counter-intuitive if it
can manage both mind and matter, as the platonist understood well when
creating theology, math and physics.
Note that here John Clark agrees implicitly with the fact that a
computation is not a physical notion, because he defines physical
computation by a computation done in physics. So he lost the point.
Unfortunately we can expect the usual self-deny and the handwaving.
Bruno
Kim
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