On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 7:39 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Disappointing, >> > > And infuriating and worthy of my utter contempt for the native > barbarian ignoramuses who destroyed the magnificent Thirty Meter Telescope. > > > >> > >> but >> > > But? Do you really think a "but" is necessary? > > > >> > >> I imagine a truly advanced civilization to have something akin to the >> "prime directive" à la Star Trek. >> > > Ah the prime directive, a Star Trek idea almost as stupid as the > unemotional robot or non-human as in Spock or Data. > > >> > >> And respect the fact that, superstitious and unsophisticated as the other >> cultures might appear to you >> [...] >> > > *RESPECT?!* Do you really find anything respectable about the idea of > "bowing down to a mountain" rather than building a thirty meter telescope > on top of it? I most certainly do not. > > >> > >> they were there first >> > > > Nobody knows who was the first but > > he first person we known with certainty to stand atop Mouna Kea was an > American, > > Joseph Goodrich > i > n > > 1823. If the native Hawaiians ever went to the top they sure didn't do it > often, they never did anything with the summit of the mountain because > there was nothing they could do with it; nothing lives up there and it's > hard to > > breathe > > up there and it's not good for anything except astronomy. > > > >> and their land is not your land. >> > > I do not have the same faith in the divine right of inherited wealth as > you do. > Nice dodge. Yes, let's put all in the same bag, Wall Street trust fund kids and remote tribes wanting to keep living their way in *the place they were born in*. > > > >> We might have to adapt quickly to such a way of thinking, >> > > I NEVER want to adapt my way of thinking to that of the native Hawaiian > morons. > This is not what I said. What is said was: adapt to the way of thinking of *leaving other people alone*. > > > >> if we are not to let the Donald Trumps of the world destroy our culture > > > I have little respect for > Donald Trump > , but today I have more respect for him than I have for religious > native Hawaiians. > It's normal to respect power. Personally, I find it much more likely that Donald Trump will negatively impact my life than the religious native Hawaiians. Aside from power, Trump doesn't seem to be more rational. After all, he's the guy who thinks he can go have a chat with Bill Gates to convince him to shut down the Internet. Telmo. > > John K Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
