On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 6:31 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>> >> >>>> >>>> and their land is not your land. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> I do not have the same faith in the divine right of inherited wealth as >>> you do. >>> >> >> > >> Nice dodge. Yes, let's put all in the same bag, Wall Street trust fund >> kids and remote tribes wanting to keep living their way in *the place they >> were born in*. >> > > > I'm not a big fan of > > Wall Street trust fund kids > > either, and if one of them owned one of the 3 places on the planet where a > thirty meter telescope could be built and refused to let it be used for > that purpose I would be in favor of using the law of eminent domain to > force the brat to sell it. And by the way, no native Hawaiian or anybody > else was ever born atop Mauna Kea, there is nothing living up there except > for a few astronomers, and if native Hawaiians > > get there way soon there won't even be that, they want to remove all > telescopes from the mountain including the world class ones that have been > there for decades. Why do you defend these people? > I don't defend them. I think they should not interfere with the construction of the telescope. All I am saying is that ramming things down people's throats isn't working out so well. I am suggesting that something like the "prime directive" is probably a good idea. It would be nice to put a telescope in a certain mountain, but it's not our mountain, so tough shit. I used to think like you, but then I realized that I was just addicted to outrage to make me feel good. We get a shot of dopamine when we feel superior to others, but it doesn't really solve anything. > > >> >>> I NEVER want to adapt my way of thinking to that of the native >>> Hawaiian morons. >>> >> >> > >> This is not what I said. What is said was: adapt to the way of thinking >> of *leaving other people alone*. >> > > There is indeed a living vibrant culture atop Mauna Kea, the culture of > astronomy, and the astronomers DO NOT want to be left alone, they want to > do things, and I think that is a culture we should respect. > Why would you feel the need to write this? Is there anyone on this list who doesn't like astronomers and their work? Telmo. > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
