On Sun, Jan 31, 2016Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > According to my faith > [...] > Your faith is a function of Geography not of logic or morals. You believe what you believe because that's what your Mommy and Daddy told you to believe from the day you first learned to talk. But it's not just you, that's the reason nearly everybody has the particular religious beliefs that they have. > > > the outcome is already preordained, while the choice to choose why and > whether to choose to act or not is left to us. > If there is a reason for our choice of action then it's deterministic, if there is no reason for our choice of action then it's random , and yet if you act in a way He doesn't like a beneficent God (who loves you very much) will fiendishly torture you not for a astronomical number of years but for a infinite number of years. However it's not clear if the infinity of years involved can be put into a one to correspondence with the integers or with the real numbers. > > > Evidence (or the lack of it) for An Omniscient Being: There is no > evidence for either atheism or polytheism. > There is zero evidence a china teapot in orbit around Uranus exists and there is zero evidence such a teapot does not exist. Does that mean there is a 50-50 chance a china teapot is in orbit around Uranus? > > > The only deduction all humans can make from our daily experiences is that > there is always someone who makes something, > Always? No exceptions? If so what conclusion does God come up with when He contemplates His own existence? > > > nothing comes from nothing. > That depends on exactly what "nothing" means. Lawrence Kraus s describes several different meanings of nothing in his book " A U niverse F rom N othing". Krauss concedes that if nothing means not even having the potential to become something then obviously it's true, nothing comes from nothing ; but then when God gets philosophical He would run into the same exact problems that we do. However if we relax the meaning of "nothing" by just a little Krauss shows how it might work. Perhaps Krauss should have called his book "A Enormous Amount From Almost Nothing". Maybe science can't explain everything, but religion can't explain anything. > > > The greatest injustice conceivable is to deny the existence of God or to > believe that there can be more than one God. > WHY?! Who does it hurt? God knows if He exists or not and He is omnipotent so if He wants us to believe He exists He certainly has the ability to convince us, and If He want's us to believe He doesn't exist even though He does He certainly has the ability to fool us. It makes no sense for a omnipotent being, but it makes perfect sense that a human would want to push the idea that the greatest injustice conceivable is to deny the existence of God or to believe in a God from a rival franchise. People push this idea because priests and preachers and a yatollahs and r abbis don't like competition. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
