I have no analogy to think that we might continue to exist as minds in some sequence of numbers, somehow. This may be a intellectual flaw as the primate that I am. I know that Stephen Wolfram touched on this, as well as Clifford Pickover. Its difficult for me to comprehend the mechanism for our minds to continue to exist in a sequence of numbers. This may not be what you are saying, Hugo, but its what I am perhaps, misapprehending on what you mean. Its a potentially, pleasent thought, but I can see no reason why all this may be true? Ignorance, on my part, may be said to be bliss, but know that I am not so blissful, right now.
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Feb 5, 2016 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Cryonics punched cards and the brain <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_4f20f65d-2e5d-4adc-8fbe-cac59d80dc93"> <div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class="aolReplacedBody"> <div>On 01 Feb 2016, at 20:13, Brent Meeker wrote:<br class="aolmail_Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote> The highest cost physiologically is that it partially works. </blockquote> I think so. For the better, or the worst. Locally and relatively to "us". People should not leave their "Gödel number" in the public domain. Better to encrypt them, I guess. Immortality is easy. Mortality is harder. Bruno <blockquote> Brent <div class="aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/31/2016 11:11 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: <blockquote cite="about:blank">I am hoping that restoration is somehow doable. The cost physiologically ( ha ha!) Is that it don't work. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Brent Meeker <a class="aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";><[email protected]></a> To: everything-list <a class="aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";><[email protected]></a> Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2016 11:14 PM Subject: Re: Cryonics punched cards and the brain <div id="aolmail_AOLMsgPart_2_60c1feb6-4a72-4a6e-a02b-03fcfb9b455e"> <div class="aolmail_aolReplacedBody"> There could also be a physiological cost. Brent <div class="aolmail_aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/31/2016 7:42 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="about:blank">There is a 13 min scifi short on youtube, that shows what happens to a couple, a century after their demise, after cryonic revival. Call it the price many would be willing to pay if cryonics really worked. Also, note that, if one believes in a heaven, and their beliefs are absolutely correct, the emotional effect is just the same, with cryonic revival, heaven, or uploading to a virch environment. There is a kind of psychological cost, but most are good with this, if we only had a good option. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Brent Meeker <a class="aolmail_aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";><[email protected]></a> To: everything-list <a class="aolmail_aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";><[email protected]></a> Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2016 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Cryonics punched cards and the brain <div id="aolmail_aolmail_AOLMsgPart_2_9af1bd70-062a-4c41-b335-9a973311024e"> <div class="aolmail_aolmail_aolReplacedBody"> <div class="aolmail_aolmail_aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/31/2016 6:46 PM, John Clark wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="about:blank"><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> I wish I could be more confident but that's the best bet I could find. And as I've said if at does't work at least it won't make me any deader.</font></blockquote> But it could make you worse off. 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