On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> So which one will become the Moscow Man? The one that will see Moscow. >> What more is there to say? > > > > > That it confirms the prediction "W v M" made in Helsinki, > But there was supposed to be one new bit of information that is known after the experiment but not before, but before the experiment the Helsinki Man already knew that t he one that will see Moscow will become the Moscow man; so what exactly is that one new bit of information? > > > and that it refutes the prediction "W & M". > > I don't know if it refutes it or not, what exactly was the "W & M" prediction about? > > Then, given the numerical identity, it gives P(M) = P(W) = 1/2. > OK there is a 50-50 probability, but a 50-50 probability of who seeing what? >> >> >> So what was that one bit of information do you have after the experiment >> that you didn't have before? If Moscow is zero and Washington is one is >> that one bit of new information that you have now but didn't have before a >> zero or a one? > > > > > The M-man lived the apparent "collapse" from "W v M" to M (that gives him > one bit of first person information, that it can write in his personal > diary), and likewise the W-man lived the apparent "collapse" from "W v M" > to W, giving him one bit of information too. > That's nice, but Bruno Marcha l didn't answer the question, what was that one bit of information do *YOU* ** have after the experiment that *YOU* ** didn't have before? If this really is a question and is not gibberish then it has a one word answer, all John Clark wants to know is if that one word is zero or one. Is that so hard? > > > In the 3p description, we go from 0 bit to 0 bit, but in the 1p > experiences we go from 0 bit to 1 bit. > Irrelevant. What one new bit of information did *YOU* get after the experimental that *YOU* didn't have before? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
