On 13 Sep 2016, at 16:22, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sunday, 11 September 2016, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net>
wrote:
In the UD model of the world, time as we perceive it, is emergent.
The "execution" of the program is timeless and exists in Platonia.
So the steps of the UD have no duration, they are logically prior to
time and duration. On the other hand, I think so called "observer
moments" must have duration in the emergent sense and must overlap.
But their relation to the UD threads is more aspirational than proven.
I think it should be possible to pause and restart at any point a
process underpinning consciousness and leave the stream of
consciousness unchanged;
Yes. That is the invariance of the 1p discourse for the delays, if I
get you right. It is a consequence of computationalism.
Consciousness is the most typical 1p notion. It is 1p per excellence.
otherwise there would be a radical decoupling of the mental from the
physical.
But there is one, anyway, in the sense that there is always an
infinity of computations (the doing of some universal program, in the
UD, that is a tiny part of arithmetic) going through your
consciousness, and the physical can only be a statistical sum on all
those relative computations. Well, OK, that is more a coupling than a
decoupling.
At the limit, this means the process underpinning consciousness can
be cut up into infinitesimals.
I think something like that occurs. For all universal program, there
is a notion of elementary step, and there is an infinity of universal
machine having less coarse grained computations. Just imagine the
smoker machine, which in between two steps of a computation make a
pause café and smoke a cigarette before coming back at work! The UD
can't miss it, even if we can bet it lives only in negligible (measure
null) consistent histories.
Bruno
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